[Swiftwater Gazette] Archives

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Fri Feb 6 11:38:05 EST 2009


Mike,

I've had more trouble than success with all the archivers.  People 
figure out how to game them, so they keep changing algorithms, and what 
worked 6 months ago, doesn't work today -- or you find they are spamming 
your list.

The crude archive system built into Mailman is all I need.  Sometimes 
Google sorts it properly, other times it doesn't.  But what I really 
need to get out of it I can find within the system itself by sorting by 
Author, Subject, Date, or Thread, or by downloading the entire text and 
searching it with programs on my own computer.

I don't need to use it that often, but when I do I find I always go back 
to the Mailman system.

Also, new people (as Ed will tell you) never want to do any work at 
all.  They will just ask the same question that you could find answered 
in the archives a dozen different times.

Thanks, though,

B.





Michael D. Weisner wrote:
> Bill,
>  
> If you want to be able to search the archives, you need to add an 
> archiver to your list.  For the R22, the archiver is nabble.com, 
> although they have become a bit strange to work with as they are 
> having growing pains at this time.  Another is "The Mail Archive" at 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/
>  
> Mike
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Bill Effros <mailto:bill at effros.com>
>     *To:* SwiftwaterGazette at mailman.theswiftwatergazette.com
>     <mailto:SwiftwaterGazette at mailman.theswiftwatergazette.com>
>     *Sent:* Friday, February 06, 2009 10:30 AM
>     *Subject:* [Swiftwater Gazette] Archives
>
>     Dave,
>
>     I knew this couldn't possibly be what you wanted to talk about, so
>     I tried going to the archives to find the beginning of the Dave
>     Bradley thread.  That turned out to be more difficult than I thought.
>
>     I want to make it easier, and will get to it when I can, which is
>     not now.
>
>     This is just a test of this link to see if it gets us where I want
>     to go.
>
>     http://mailman.theswiftwatergazette.com/pipermail/swiftwatergazette/
>
>     Bill Effros
>     List Administrator
>
>
>
>     David Bradley wrote:
>>     Ed, nice to chat again.
>>
>>     Is that really the "real" issue?  Pretty far down my list.
>>
>>     I think by any reasonable definition bankers are capitalists.  Maybe
>>     something to do with providing capital?  The fact that a number of
>>     bankers (really the Boards that are at fault) were reckless in the
>>     pursuit of quarterly earnings makes them idiot capitalists...  in
>>     hindsight.  The fact that the SEC wasn't all over reserves and wasn't
>>     tracking with the piling up of derivatives and the like in my mind is
>>     criminal.
>>
>>     If Obama selected Daschle and the others with knowledge that they had
>>     tax issues then he would be unethical and stupid for having done so.
>>     I don't think he's stupid.  I think there are enough lapses in ethics
>>     in his past that I wouldn't hold him up as squeekly clean.  That
>>     wasn't my criterion for selecting him, and remember, he wasn't my
>>     first choice.
>>
>>     Dave
>>
>>
>>     On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Ed Kroposki <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>>       
>>>     David,
>>>
>>>     The real issue is you and the MSM calling them capitalist.  Did they create
>>>     enduring value?  Or were they con men like Bernie and Obama?
>>>
>>>     Did Heny Ford create enduring value?
>>>
>>>     How can you compare con men to capitalist?  Real capitalist understand
>>>     creating value.  Brad's sheet metal workers are creating real value.  The
>>>     financial instruments that the big bankers and financers created, where is
>>>     the enduring value?
>>>
>>>     Go back and reread Mike W.'s comments.  "I have no problem with highly paid
>>>     talent; just they need to be talented at what they are being paid for."
>>>
>>>     These were talented at slight of hand.  That is not enduring value.  And
>>>     their friends in Congress and the SEC let them perform their circus act.
>>>     Someone suggested replacing all members of the SEC.  That would be a good
>>>     start as long as Obama did not choose them.  Obama seems to have an
>>>     acceptance of cheaters.  But then he is your man so that must be O.K?
>>>
>>>     Ed K
>>>     Addendum:  "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of
>>>     blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of
>>>     miseries."  Winston Churchill
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>       
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